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ETC Community Call 029
2022-10-18
1500 UTC
1430 UTC
Discord
30-60+ mins

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Join the Green Room call 1 hour before we go live to chat offline

A casual voice chat to discuss ideas for ETC. All are welcome.

The ETC Discord can be joined at https://ethereumclassic.org/discord

Please join the voice chat the #community-calls channel to ask questions or bring up topics.

This call is an open discussion so please feel free to jump in any time, but be reminded this is live streaming on YouTube, so if you are on the mic, please turn off sound notifications, and keep it family friendly. You can also post messages in Discord or YouTube, and we'll try to get to them via the chats.

You can find the agenda to this call in the description, which contains links to everything we talk about.

Agenda: see below

Gratitude

Brotherlal, d_a, w1g0, Discord Boosted (Call Quality Up)

Anyone want to say hello?

Ecosystem Update

  • Discord
    • #off-topic is back!
    • Discord Boosted - what benefits?
    • Discord server logo and perks with LVL3
    • Invitation links; CoinMarketCap & Coingecko expired discord links updated
    • SUPER MEGA LOGO DRAMA

⚠️ DISCLAIMER

Health Check

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Ethereum Classic is sitting pretty and dominating 40% of the GPU market.

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Bob's Back!

Update on Grants

I think it would make sense to resume them after we have collaboratively come up some rough roadmap for next steps for ETC.

In various conversations I had at DEVCON this week and earlier, I have a pretty good idea of some things which could make the grade there.

For the Coop we always do budgeting and planning on year boundaries and I think we could maybe do that for ETC protocol too.

So work towards a shared roadmap for 2023 calendar year, coordinated with things which the Coop could do, together with things the community could do.

Also, fingers crossed, with grants active by then, so perhaps that overall roadmap could include identifying low-hanging fruit which would be good candidates for grant recipients?

Twitter Together Update

  • Updated TT Version
  • Basical overview of where we are
    • Two repos; eth_classic and etc_network
    • eth_classic rules drafted, pending merge
    • Already tweeting regularly from etc_network
  • #ETCtweets system
    • @SETH-MCCORMACK idea
    • ETC_Network rules to be determiend (e.g. retweeting, and giving credit, discuss)
    • No promotion of project other than listed on website
    • Spam, possibly limit to 1 per account per day
  • New Volunteers
    • Need volunteers outside EU/US timezone
  • Thanks to the recent twitter drama for stirring us into action

EVM MEV 51%

https://twitter.com/koeppelmann/status/1580893089077809153#

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Community Call Engagement

Mastering ETC Book

https://twitter.com/EthClassicDAO/status/1580616622691143682

If you're looking for a simple way to contribute to #EthereumClassic. We are modifying the open source work of Mastering Ethereum (EVM tech, not ETH) to read accurately for the $ETC network. Join in and contribute to one of the few open and decentralized blockchains in #crypto 💚

Remix Support

Mario https://etc-network.info/ added https://remix.etc-network.info, is looking for support in config and/or suggestions.

Etcetera

Bull or Bear, brother?

Brolal's Market Analysis

Free Talk

Sign Off

See you next week, same time same place.

From Coop Discord

The DFG times ran from Dec 2018 to Dec 2021.

DFG is Digital Finance Group, which is James Wo's company who created ETC Labs and were involved in the ETC ecosystem over that timespan, though the last year they were very inactive, only funding the Core Geth team, with no other people and no media presence (dead twitter, dead website).

They made numerous missteps, especially in their communication channels and especially in their Chinese language communication and "community" efforts.

  • They stole the ethereumproject org in Github (one of them added as a admin and then he removed all the others and took over)

  • They promised funding to ETCDEV and then pulled it at the last minute, leading to the death of ETCDEV

  • And then rehired all the devs as ETC Labs Core, indeed everyone there except Igor and Donald (both of whom would not comply to their wishes)

  • They forked the ECIP process into ETC Labs Improvement Process, stating that they didn't care what "ethereumclassic" (ie the existing community) wanted and would set direction as they saw best and people could follow or not.

  • They announced a hard fork to the Chinese community which had not gone through the ECIP process and was not consensus.

  • They crapped all over Roy Zhou's existing ETC community and "made a new one", calling that "Official".

  • They donated 250K to ETC Coop (before my time) and James Wo became a board member.

  • Their "community guy" Christian Xu, who was paid by DFG, was declared to be the part of the ETC Coop (but he did not report to me and I was not giving him any direction).

  • They used that ETC Cooperative connection as validation for their work.

  • They had DFG-funded social media outlets, and especially Chinese-language outlets where they presented themselves as the voice and guardian of the protocol. Controlling developers and media outlets and pushing self-serving messages.

  • Example - pointing to their wallet as the "official ETC wallet", etc . Because of this history, many in the ETC community in the West are very wary of similar "mixed messages" happening in channels which they don't understand the language for, and especially in China, given the size of the country, number of people involved, size of ETC community there. And, indeed, in Asia as a whole. . I think the very best way of ensuring everyone is on the same page is Chinese translations for:

  • ETC community website

  • Mailing list for ETC Cooperative

  • Twitter account? (maybe we can set up a parallel twitter together which tweets translations of all the eth_classic tweets?

We obviously cannot combine or translate Discord or other "chat forums", because the content is constant and coming from multiple people. Translation tools might make this somewhat accessible, but really people need to speak English and Chinese to really be part of both communities. . With regards to the WeChat and Telegram channels managed by @南离777, I think we just need to ensure there is a clean separation between those lists and Hebe. I know that is the case. @南离777 has made that very clear with repeated explanations about his own and @zhang's history. That @南离777 does not work for Hebe and so on.